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rFactor GT3 2010 - Race Control
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 28-09-2011 00:29
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If you have any complaints about a situation that happened in the last race or qualifying, post it here. We will analyze them and give penalties if necessary.
Try to be fair and only long for race control if it's really necessary.
Thread Rules
Only 3 posts per situation will be allowed. Further posts will be deleted.
- 1 Post from the person protesting, telling us which lap, what turn and what driver was trouble.
- 1 Post from the person being accused, explaining his point of view or his reasons.
- 1 Post from the person in charge with the verdict and the reason of the verdict.
HANDICAP WEIGHTS
Click Image for Round-by-Round details.
Batch file to apply wieghts (for admins)
Right-click and Save as...
Put it in your rfactor directory, join the server, log in as admin and type:
/batch gt3weight.ini
I'll try to update the file whenever some change happens, mainly after a race and when someone changes his car.
AWARDED PENALTIES
- (fGw) Wez +20s (drive-through equivalent) to the Round 3 (Zolder) race result for cutting multiple times
- (fGw) Lucky Jackson +20s (drive-through equivalent) to the Round 3 (Zolder) race result for cutting multiple times and a warning, which means next penalty for cutting will be a DQ.
- (fGw)Flash -10 points for changing the car during the season
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INCIDENTS UNDER INVESTIGATION
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Edited by (fGw) Kronos on 27-11-2011 22:08
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 02-10-2011 09:06
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Added a table with current handicap weights and a batch file for admins to apply them.
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 02-10-2011 21:15
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Updated the weights and the batch file after the first race.
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 16-10-2011 09:42
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Updated for the new sign-ups.
Also, I decided that not taking part in a race will be treated the same as a DNF outside the points, which means people who sign up in the middle of the season will not start with the default 5% penalty. Instead they will get 3% less for each race they missed (just as if they finished outside the points in those races).
People who join in the middle of a season already have a disadvantage in terms of points, so there's no reason why they should get the initial 5%.
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| (fGw)Cabo-2 |
Posted on 16-10-2011 14:25
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Yoo kronos...i would only do that when people don't sign off for the race.
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 30-10-2011 21:06
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Updated after Zolder.
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 02-11-2011 00:55
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Penalties for cutting in the 3rd Round (Zolder):
- (fGw) Wez +20s (drive-through equivalent) to the race result for cutting multiple times
- (fGw) Lucky Jackson +20s to the race result for cutting multiple times and a warning, which means next penalty for cutting will be a DQ.
Race Positions after Penalties:
 Code01 (+0) (fgw)geoff meade 47'28"870 0'00"000
02 (+0) (fGw) Kronos 47'32"072 0'03"202
03 (+0) (fGw)Harryseknim 47'32"612 0'03"742
04 (+0) Pougness 47'32"728 0'03"858
05 (+0) (fGw)MonstrousAcura 47'35"921 0'07"051
06 (-1) (fGw)Flash 48'04"733 0'35"863
07 (+1) (fGw) WEZ 48'18"599 0'49"729
08 (-1) (fGw)cabo-2 48'22"653 0'53"783
09 (-1) (fGw)Moulich 48'26"194 0'57"324
10 (+2) (fGw)Lucky Jackson 48'29"279 1'00"409
11 (+0) (fGw)E-yan 48'21"891 +1 laps
Comment on penalties:
Wez and Lucky cut the track a lot, Wez about 12 times and Lucky about 19 (for comparison: others had a maximum of 4), which is why they got penalties. Lucky straight lined shicanes multiple times as well, which was even pointed out during the race on TS. That is already enough for a DQ from Zolder, but as it's the first time, it was replaced with a warning, that next time Lucky will get a DQ if he gets penalized for cutting. If anyone's interested in which cuts were taken into account I can provide the times of the cuts for the replay.
Also, if someone else straight lines schicanes multiple times in a race from now on there will be DQs.
- Kronos
Edited by (fGw) Kronos on 02-11-2011 01:12
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| (fGw)Lucky Jackson |
Posted on 02-11-2011 18:07
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OI 
Edited by (fGw)Lucky Jackson on 03-11-2011 21:27
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| (fGw) wez |
Posted on 02-11-2011 20:20
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**** it then m8 its bad enough trying to drive these cars as it is so **** it 
stick your penalty up your a***** ty for listening
Edited by (fGw) wez on 02-11-2011 20:21
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 02-11-2011 23:16
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(fGw)Lucky Jackson wrote:
OI how do you arrive at that i just watched the first 9 laps depening on your version of cutting you done it once
Long story short, as I wrote in the rules page, there's a tool on the server which records all the cuts, I then filtered them out so that only those where someone might have gained time or overtaken someone are left and then watched them on the server replay to check which of them are actually valid cuts.... and ignored the ones from lap 1.
I've looked only at the cuts on the schicanes and tried to be fairly liberal on the definition of cuts, as I didnt want to penalize for the slight ones, so:
- In the first schicane, I marked a cut if someone was completely off the red-and-white part of the curb (2nd corner of the schicane), which also means half his car was on the gravel.
- In the second schicane a cut was marked if someone had 4 wheels on the grass in turn 1 of the schicane or about half a car on the gravel in turn 2.
- In the last schicane at the end of the lap you had to have 4 wheels on grass in either turns.
The numbers I've mentioned earlier were based on that process.
I've sent You a PM with the exact times of Your cuts I've taken into account.
(fGw) wez wrote:
ty for listening
You're welcome
- Kronos
Edited by (fGw) Kronos on 02-11-2011 23:28
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| (fGw)Lucky Jackson |
Posted on 03-11-2011 17:31
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Hi,
Edited by (fGw)Lucky Jackson on 03-11-2011 21:27
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 13-11-2011 21:44
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Updated weights after Round 4.
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 27-11-2011 22:03
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Updated weights after Round 5. and added a -10 points penalty to Flash for changing the car during the season.
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Edited by (fGw) Kronos on 27-11-2011 22:09
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 27-11-2011 22:19
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I'd also like to report Wez for what he did in the last lap.
Starts at the 4th corner of lap 30. Wez gets a puncture, overtakes me by cutting the track and still blocks me to defend his position.
That's the second time in a row that he does something stupid. Please look into it. I cant decide anything since I'm involved in the "incident".
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 11-12-2011 21:35
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Weights updated after Round 6.
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| (fGw)MonstrousAcura |
Posted on 12-12-2011 13:46
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Can someone pls take a look at the incedent between me and Geoff on lap 21, first corner.
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." |
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| (fgw)geoff meade |
Posted on 12-12-2011 15:27
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you overtook me on the inside then i tried to overtake you on the inside we touched i went on grass i braked (see brake light come on ) we crashed ,
i have no control of the car on grass,
no need for stewards nothing wrong whatsoever .
sorry if you upset but it had nothing do with me that you didn't finish in a better position as 3 or 4 laps later you went of again.
chin up good luck next time
geoff 
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| (fGw)Harryseknim |
Posted on 12-12-2011 17:31
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Can some one take a look at my car?
It seems like it is out of control. |
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 13-12-2011 11:38
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(fGw)MonstrousAcura wrote:
Can someone pls take a look at the incedent between me and Geoff on lap 21, first corner.
I'm gonna look into it.
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| (fGw) Kronos |
Posted on 14-12-2011 03:37
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(fGw)MonstrousAcura wrote:
Can someone pls take a look at the incedent between me and Geoff on lap 21, first corner.
I would call it a racing incident.
First off, there were 2 collisions, the hard 2nd one was the result of the much lighter 1st, so I'm gonna focus on the 1st.
From Acura's perspective, he overtook Geoff on the entry to the first corner, had to lift, because he wasnt on the optimal entry line, but thought he was still in front and just followed his line, he didnt do any sharp moves. When he was getting closer to the next apex they collided.
From Geoff's perspective, he was overtaken on the entry, saw that Acura had to lift and decided on a tighter line at full speed to try and recover his position, he thought he was side-by-side with Acura into the next apex and expected that Acura is going to leave him room. Unfortunately Acura didnt think they were that close and continued turning, cutting out Geoff.
The accident could've been avoided by both sides:
Geoff could've backed off (which is what Acura expected) - Even if Acura left room and they got side-by-side, Geoff would've been on the outside to the next long right-hander, so he would have to let Acura pass anyway.
Acura could've left space (which Geoff expected) - He should've known that Geoff was on the inside, side-by-side or not. Leaving some space he would still be in a better position to the next corner and he shouldn't have problems defending it on the straight with Porsche's power advantage.
It's hard to say who was right or wrong in this situation, which is why this is just a racing incident.
As far as the second collision goes, I dont think it was avoidable. After the 1st collision, Geoff's front wheels were in the air, so he couldnt brake in time. That said he only started braking when half his car was already on grass, which probably made the contact more severe. That's the only real thing I could punish for if there was a lot of damage to the car.
The incident is similar to Hamilton and Massa's collision in the Indian GP, one side will say there was no need for trying to overtake there, other side will say that the guy in front should've left room anyway. In the end both sides have a fair point.
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